don't start fighting, darlings.
i am genuinely curious.
after all i was a jobo 50 years and thought the wbt$ was 100% correct.. i ask this because i see that, for example, christian denominations (or whatever), likely have differing interpretations of the same writing.
James....God here.
Nope. No hints. I realize my chosen path might be on the other side of the globe, or might be in the place where a naughty servant of mine just touched you funny.....but no hints. No backsies. No sneaky reveals.
Figure it out. Make sure you are right though because its death if yo don't (or hell, or bad reincarnation, or eternal nothingness......see......you thought you had me there didn't you.)
non jw here married to a jw.
i was told by two witnesses that if a woman jw were to marry a non jw that she would have no say whatsoever in what their children would believe or go to church if he was of a different religious belief and he enforced it.
from what i've read in different threads this is actually not the case.
The JWs teach the man is the head of the household. I don't think it gets much more specific in regard to what you are asking. You are saying a JW woman would have no say if she marries a non-JW man? Well not to state the obvious.....but wouldn't that be between them?
i found this video very well done.. mike felker is the chapter director of ratio christi at georgia state university.
check out this video on youtube:.
https://youtu.be/grs8m6tdq9g.
There has to be a way to refute it in less than 90 minutes. :)
i have my meeting tomorrow and i dont know if i should act like im having a good time or not.. from akid48 .
read my last post i made to know whats going on in my life.
You are 13. You can be good at whatever you want! Really start killing school. Find a sport to play. Figure out your passions, and then fight for them. its hard for a parent to see their child excited and working towards something, and deny them of it. Just say you will "make up" the meeting or something. give them a way out.
Keep on learning. Anyone here if they could go back to 13......wow! :)
there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.
the brother/organization lied about how old they are.
he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.
So they are contradicting themselves with that article. Its too hilarious. Whoever wrote it didn't even think about the flood!
Unless of course they actually believe this tree made it through a global flood and survived under water for what....30 days? That valley isn't very high. Wouldn't exactly be the first to see the sky after a flood. Lol.
https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..
Reminded me of Yub Nub for some reason.
Maybe because of the puppets.
"former jehovah's witness jailed for historical sex offences against young sisters... .
sentencing magistrate bernadette boss noted it was "most unfortunate" that once again a church had failed to notify the authorities about an allegation of sexual abuse.. that made the church complicit in the matters and "appears to have exacerbated the effect on the victims of the offence," dr boss said...".
quoted text from the web page :.
Doubtful.....WOW!
Thank you for sharing that. I think we have all done things we now look back at and are ashamed of. I am glad you were honest with the authorities.
May I ask, that honesty and admittance that you felt not all that could have been done.....was done, has that affected your relationship with those elders? Are you openly out?
mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.
so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.
watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.
Ugh. I hate to hear of it. Of course the narrative is that this sort of thing just never happens anymore. Blood is never really "necessary" anymore, and is dangerous.
Anyway to speak to the guys coming around about the real deal?
hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.
after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.
i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.
JB - Prepare to get disfellowshipped.
I almost did a spit take here. Haha. Anyways, I was thinking the same thing. I almost sent a letter about blood (it was 9 pages long), then I learned from people on here, that letter would just go to my elders and they would be referred to deal with me. Well.....I already knew they weren't able to have an intelligent conversation about it so I didn't send it. I am not DF'd probably for only that reason.
tonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
Jules,
Not all selfishness is bad. For example....you could compromise your values and integrity, stay a JW, deal with the resulting depression and drudgery that comes with going but not believing, probably end up getting yourself in trouble.....all while being miserable.
Or you could live an authentic life, reach out to your parents and others with love and positivity, and continue to evole as a person and your belief system.
In the end.....which person better serves their family, their friends, and humanity?
P.S. - I would stay away from the word cult, or other pejorative "triggers". Tell them you have to obey your conscience. You are taking the more difficult road. You simply do not believe they are being chosen. And honestly....I would reconsider disassociating. Give your family a way to speak to you.
